It Takes Two sold over 20 million copies and won GOTY, but Hazelight's Josef Fares says "all the numbers looked really, really bad" before the co-op studio became "this really big developer"

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“But I have extreme confidence in what we do.

I trust in the core [of the idea].

Brothers, A Way Out, It Takes Two all the numbers looked really, really bad.

So, trust in your vision, and go with it fully.

Don’t back away from that.”

Sometimes, I think they get so much s**t they don’t deserve.

I don’t know how they work with others, but with us, it’s super good."