Persona director and JRPG veteran says the amazing menus in Metaphor: ReFantazio were "really annoying" to make, just as Persona 5's were "impossible to read at first"

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As it turns out, getting this stuff right is “really annoying.”

This is actually really annoying to do.

We have separate programs running for each of them as well.

It takes a lot of time."

But as Hashino tells The Verge, it takes work to build a Persona-level (or Metaphor-level) UI.

The team apparently suffered during the development of Persona 5’s highly angular aesthetics in particular.

Of course, this JRPG has much more to offer than pretty menus.

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